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Post by the stat guy on Jan 5, 2007 21:38:00 GMT -5
Well tonights game was a hard fought battle, kudos to the boys. mud pies to the coach. it was so good to see the way he rotated the bench into the game and kept the kids fresh. classic pierce only play 7 the other kids are to fill the seats so he can bounce ideals off them. his great motivational comments in the press , his great knowledge of the game( if you hold the ball the other team cant score) his insight about the games on his after game show. and the way his offensive plan has come together. over the last 4 games he is averaging 38.75 points per game, the only problem is the opp is averaging 58.75. that is only a 20 point difference. which is ironic to his 20 loss season's. well we are only 10 more losses away from 20 and 1 more win away from 5 so which do you think we will see first? victor said the boys record was 4-11 but i have researched it to be 4-10 which is .285 winning % .. which is a great improvement over his .280 winning % over the past 5 years. keep up the good work coach!! thanks to the boys who played and the give all they have, i only wish we didn't have to give you a PE teacher as a Bball coach. keeping coach pierce and him having a winning season this year or next........ better odds of a midget winning the long jump in the olypics......... but thats just my take.....
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Post by stat guy on Jan 5, 2007 21:46:50 GMT -5
Where has f the power been? i am sure that he has a comment on the legendary coach pierce.. studies show that a diet high in loss's may lead to you being a loser--5 out of 4 coach supporters think 20 losses is OK and have no problem with math-- LOL ------- 4-10 isn't good , but 44- 113 is horrible.... we need a new coach after this year. or least a new PE teacher......................
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Post by Big Blue on Jan 6, 2007 0:43:17 GMT -5
Agreed!! They definitely need a new coach!!
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Post by t2 on Jan 9, 2007 22:39:58 GMT -5
I have coached with Mike and my son has played for him for a few years and I can say with confidence that he wouldn't treat Greene any different than any other player. When it comes to coaching and getting in the game or practice, they are just players to him. His only goal always is to make the players the best that they can be. Just as any coaches job, to bring out the best that every player has to offer. I don't know if Mike would consider coaching at CC, but I would let my son play for him any day. Didn't really want to bring up an old comment, but I thought it was funny. I may be wrong, but here we are talking about bringing in a recreation center coach (I don't think he played or seen college basketball first hand, or really high school for that matter) and saying that Green (former College b-ball player) would be his assistant. |
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Post by stat guy on Jan 9, 2007 22:48:31 GMT -5
what college did len play or coach at? rumor has it that it was USC? university of stinking creek-- i am not saying Len Pierce is a bad coach, I mean sometimes a coach has to have , back to back to back 20 loss seasons before they get a program turned around.  |
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Post by Ball Coach on Jan 9, 2007 22:53:05 GMT -5
Mike has a good knowledge of the game...he did play through the H.S. level until an ankle injury slowed him down. The fact is the man is so smart he could be put into a soccer coaching job and he'd learn how to do it effectively. He is probably one of the smartest people CCHS has ever produced. Does that mean he is ready to coach HS bball? I don't know the answer, only he does. I do know that his schemes are more in line with Bruce Pearl type coaches rather than inflexible ones like Coach Pierce. That is the mark of a good coach in any sport...the ability to change with the times and his personell from year to year. If you can not do that then you are doomed as a coach.
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Post by t2 on Jan 9, 2007 23:00:07 GMT -5
what college did len play or coach at? rumor has it that it was USC? university of stinking creek-- i am not saying Len Pierce is a bad coach, I mean sometimes a coach has to have , back to back to back 20 loss seasons before they get a program turned around. yea, i think he just played in high school.. of course..that was a looooonnngg time ago... |
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Post by stat guy on Jan 9, 2007 23:00:29 GMT -5
Agreed with ya all the way Red hound.
Sometimes when i watch Len on the side lines , i wonder if he is singing a 70's rock ballad in his head, dreaming of getting a mullet hair cut. longing to get home and put some bell bottoms on or a polyester butterfly collared shirt ..
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Post by t2 on Jan 9, 2007 23:06:07 GMT -5
Mike has a good knowledge of the game...he did play through the H.S. level until an ankle injury slowed him down. The fact is the man is so smart he could be put into a soccer coaching job and he'd learn how to do it effectively. He is probably one of the smartest people CCHS has ever produced. Does that mean he is ready to coach HS bball? I don't know the answer, only he does. I do know that his schemes are more in line with Bruce Pearl type coaches rather than inflexible ones like Coach Pierce. That is the mark of a good coach in any sport...the ability to change with the times and his personell from year to year. If you can not do that then you are doomed as a coach. Well, who knows as to whether he is the smartest person ever from CCHS. What is actually funny is using Bruce Pearl as an example. A little info for you. Bruce Pearl's man presses, with either a man on the ball or at half court, and runs the "flex" offense, just more spread out than normal. Len Pierce, along with about every coach at one time, runs the "flex" as well He has actually thrown in a few of UCLA's high post offenses in the past, but usually the "flex" and in most cases ever coach man presses. Now, I do agree that he is done for, or should be probably, after this year, but is Mike even a teacher? |
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Post by 27 on Jan 9, 2007 23:36:45 GMT -5
I agree that Len's coaching techniques aren't the best in the world but would Mike actually be any better? I think he only wants to coach the kids he's been with which is pretty typical of most "new" coaches. Once these kids graduate, would he really stay? You have to admit Len has hung around through through good seasons and bad ones. I just want to say to the "new cougars" great job guys!!! Hang in there!! It's hard to play only 6 or so deep and I think you guys have stepped up and represented CCHS with alot of class. You are the true players.
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Post by Ball Coach on Jan 10, 2007 10:20:29 GMT -5
The Pearl comparison is in regard to the up-tempo transition game that he runs...now personell may not dictate such a game plan, but CC sure doesn't have any big men to "grind it out" down low. I also think coaching is a thing he has always wanted to at the HS level, but I will not put words into anyone's mouth. Since it is this group it would be all the more gratifying due to the fact that he "cut his teeth" with them. As for being THE smartest...I never said that, I did however say ONE OF the smartest...that is a fact.
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Post by Parent on Jan 10, 2007 11:42:31 GMT -5
I have coached with Mike and my son has played for him for a few years and I can say with confidence that he wouldn't treat Greene any different than any other player. When it comes to coaching and getting in the game or practice, they are just players to him. His only goal always is to make the players the best that they can be. Just as any coaches job, to bring out the best that every player has to offer. I don't know if Mike would consider coaching at CC, but I would let my son play for him any day.
I would question just how fair Mike is. Just ask some parents that have kids playing at the recreation center. He sets some rules for some kids and other rules for other children. Pat this may be a new thread for you - look into how many tales he has told parents and coaches down at the recreation center. In addition he has let at least one player play that was too old. In my book that is cheating!
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Post by parent on Jan 10, 2007 11:48:47 GMT -5
I have coached with Mike and my son has played for him for a few years and I can say with confidence that he wouldn't treat Greene any different than any other player. When it comes to coaching and getting in the game or practice, they are just players to him. His only goal always is to make the players the best that they can be. Just as any coaches job, to bring out the best that every player has to offer. I don't know if Mike would consider coaching at CC, but I would let my son play for him any day. I would question just how fair Mike is. Just ask some parents that have kids playing at the recreation center. He sets some rules for some kids and other rules for other children. Pat this may be a new thread for you - look into how many tales he has told parents and coaches down at the recreation center. In addition he has let at least one player play that was too old. In my book that is cheating! Let me clear up what I was saying - I was quoting an earlier post from big blue and I did not put that in quotations. The second paragraph is my reply to bigblues quote. Here it is again. I have coached with Mike and my son has played for him for a few years and I can say with confidence that he wouldn't treat Greene any different than any other player. When it comes to coaching and getting in the game or practice, they are just players to him. His only goal always is to make the players the best that they can be. Just as any coaches job, to bring out the best that every player has to offer. I don't know if Mike would consider coaching at CC, but I would let my son play for him any day. |
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Post by lothar on Jan 10, 2007 14:03:36 GMT -5
I think the new COugars pleyed well last night but couldn't run with the Cats. I don't think the other tema would have done much better. It was good to see Mikey get to put a point on the board.
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Post by Mr.LK. on Jan 10, 2007 14:11:01 GMT -5
OR just had too much quality depth IMO last night.
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