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Post by orangewashed on Oct 8, 2007 20:39:42 GMT -5
I am not sure what you mean about me not saying anything about Jellico. What I have said is that I am in favor of replacing every coach at all the schools and bringing in outsiders to coach the teams here.
I am tired of our teams being given recycled coaches that are there only to promote their kids and then move on as their kids move on.
Just like Jacksboro Middle School football, Mike Miller proved tonight that he is just a body put in place by his brother-in-law when he was principal at that school. I think that is the relationship. He was given the basketball program and quit it when his oldest son left that program, and now is hanging onto the football program so he can elevate his youngest son.
Mike absolutely proved tonight that he just is not a coach by letting Steve Rutherford at LaFollette Middle beat him with less talent is what I am told. If you saw the game, as I did, he absolutely does not understand how to use his kids properly, and his is totally lost in the art of using the clock and time-outs.
Mike proves my point that if we ever want our teams to excel, we need to get outside help with our programs. Bring in a coach that is not there to promote his own child and then move on once the child moves on.
You can continue to drink the Kool-Aid if you want to. I choose not because I want better for the kids county wide, not just at CCHS.
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Post by operator on Oct 9, 2007 11:25:37 GMT -5
Obviously bringing in an old coach worked for LaFollette. I can't imagine many outsiders wanting to come here and coach the way the school system is here.
But replacing Mike Miller would be a good start.
When is the last time a Jacksboro team has ever lost two in a row to LaFollette???
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Post by orangewashed on Oct 9, 2007 17:45:58 GMT -5
Obviously bringing in an old coach worked for LaFollette.
[glow=green,2,300]Steve Rutherford is probably one of the few exceptions to my ranting about the home-grown recycled coaches. If I remember correctly, Steve was one of the best coaches the high school ever had. Politics and Steve not willing to play the political game have kept him down. He is a coach that is worthy of whatever chance he were to get. As a matter of fact, I will say this, he probably deserves better chances than he is given to take some of the programs further than he was allowed.[/glow]
I can't imagine many outsiders wanting to come here and coach the way the school system is here.
[glow=green,2,300]Check out my new thread about coaching supplements.[/glow]
But replacing Mike Miller would be a good start.
[glow=green,2,300]Doing this is a no brainer. He is a joke as a coach. Has he ever been good at any level? If he has, I sure am not aware of it. And he just keeps moving with his kids. Caryville, to JMS, what next. Recycle him to the house. From what I understand about an incident that happened when he was principal at Caryville, he is lucky to have a job. He needs to thank the Union for him still having a job. The Union and his family connections that is.[/glow]
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Post by blueandwhite on Oct 9, 2007 18:43:19 GMT -5
i only want the best for this county to but it is going to take more than you to change things. well maybe not who knows with this school system we have here. do you have kids in the county that are in school
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Post by orangewashed on Oct 9, 2007 19:33:08 GMT -5
The overall point to this thread is that we will never have change as long as we have Kool-Aid drinking Blind Sheep pretending everything is okay. Mainly because they are following their kids along being coaches and/or assistant coaches while their kids are on the team.
These kind of parents are the ones that will fight you if you want to change things because they might get robbed of their (the parents) glory at the expense of doing the right thing for the kids. I can think of at least 3 parents right now at the high school that have been some kind of coach on just about every team their kid has been on all the way through school, including your junior pro and little leagues, as well as now. And these kind of parents are at the root of the problem all the way through the programs all over the county.
Sorry folks, but the truth is just that, the truth. And this is what needs to be changed.
And yes, I do have kids in the system. And no, you will not find me trying to be the next Vince Lomabardi, thinking I am something great, just because the good LORD blessed me with a child with some athletic talent, like some of these parents that are trying to live their childhood all over again through their kids.
I know that I have hurt some of your feelings, but if you will be honest with yourselves, you will agree that I am dead on point. But the ones that I am talking about will be the ones to scream the loudest that I just do not know what I am talking about. Because I have upset their applecart's and their egos and they will have to admit they may not be the coach they think they are, but are being allowed to be an assistant because they have a kid with some talent they are riding on the backs of.
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Post by bluedev on Oct 10, 2007 5:53:30 GMT -5
Somebody's mad 'cause their kids aren't very good at sports. That's obviously the coach's fault. An old gay-tor coach would be much better. Man, how many boxes of Kleenex are you going to go through? This bag of chips is stale.
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Post by orangewashed on Oct 10, 2007 6:19:27 GMT -5
Somebody's mad 'cause their kids aren't very good at sports.
[glow=green,2,300]Come on, you can do better than that. Is that all you have to make a discussion? The admin of this site knows my kids and I assure you he will tell you that I am not jealous because I have a kid that does not get to play because he/or she lacks talent. [/glow]
That's obviously the coach's fault.
[glow=green,2,300]The CCHS freshman football got their hats handed to them the other night at Scott County, I understand. Whose fault was that? Was it the kids, or was it the coaches that are so inept, the kids cannot compete because the coaches do not have a clue what they are doing? I have seen the freshman team play, and I can tell you, the coaching staff is completely clueless. It appears that they basically tell the boys to just go line up and do the best they can do. It is a mess watching these kids try to line up.
Yes, I am going to say that it is just not acceptable for any of the counties teams to go somewhere and get their butts beat by 30 points or so. These Kool-Aid drinkers that do not want to lose their spot in the program want people to believe it is alright, because it might get one of them run off. Never mind what getting beat by 30 or so is doing to the kids psyche, as long as dear old dad gets to continue on being a coach.[/glow]
An old gay-tor coach would be much better.
[glow=green,2,300]The Old Gator Ball Coach could phone in a better coaching job than what these kids are getting.[/glow]
Man, how many boxes of Kleenex are you going to go through?
[glow=green,2,300]The Kleenex's might be because I want so much better for the kids. I have very little sympathy for these ego driven parents that want to keep up their ego's trying to become the next Vince Lombardi. Let me ask you this, if one of these parents that moves up with their kids has some much coaching ability, why has he or she not been applying it all along across the board at all the schools instead of hanging onto a position because they have a good athlete to bring them into the fold? Why just share that wonderful coaching ability with just the team their kid is own and not all the teams? There is only one answer for that, they will only be helping to coach while their kid is there. When that kid is out of the program, so is that parent. And that is just not good for any program.[/glow]
This bag of chips is stale.
[glow=green,2,300]Just like channels on a TV, if you do not want to participate in this discussion, there are many more on this forum. No one makes you add anything to the discussion. So please stop your crying about it being stale. Why did you even bother to comment if it is so stale? It just makes you look bad.[/glow] |
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Post by bluedev on Oct 10, 2007 7:24:24 GMT -5
Why don't you just take over? Then some not a very nice person can ride you like a $2 mule the whole time you're there.
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Post by operator on Oct 10, 2007 9:45:15 GMT -5
I do agree with you on the point of needing better coaches orangewashed.
LaFollette and Jellico are doping pretty well with local coaches.
Lady Cougar basketball has done well for years with a local coach.
LaFollette track has one of the best track coaches I have ever seen.
Obviously there are good local coaches.
I have no problem with bringing in nonlocals to coach though. I just don't see why they would come to a school system like this.
I am an education major at UT. When people find out I am from Campbell County their first question is, "You aren't going back there to teach are you?"
Of course I answer no. I want to go somewhere that pays well and respects the teachers. That isn't Campbell County. Our school board and central office staff are jokes. Gary Seale is even worse.
I would never willing teach or coach, not that I feel I am qualified to coach I am just saying that to make a point, in Campbell County because of the idiots that are in charge.
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Post by orangewashed on Oct 10, 2007 14:34:56 GMT -5
Why don't you just take over?
[glow=green,2,300]Then we would get into the same thing that we are into now wouldn't we. A coach that has no clue as to what he/she is doing. I have never claimed to be a good coach, but just like many other armchair qb's, I know that what we now have is just not that good.[/glow]
Then some not a very nice person can ride you like a $2 mule the whole time you're there.
[glow=green,2,300]As a fan and parent, just like you have the right to be a blind sheep kool-aid drinking fan, I have the right to not appreciate the coaches we now have. [/glow] |
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Post by orangewashed on Oct 10, 2007 14:47:06 GMT -5
I do agree with you on the point of needing better coaches orangewashed.
LaFollette and Jellico are doing pretty well with local coaches.
Lady Cougar basketball has done well for years with a local coach.
LaFollette track has one of the best track coaches I have ever seen.
Obviously there are good local coaches.
[glow=green,2,300]I do agree with these statements. Not all of them are bad.[/glow]
I have no problem with bringing in nonlocals to coach though.
[glow=green,2,300]The thing about non-local coaches is that hopefully it would take the politics out of who plays. Players would play because they deserve to play, not because of who Mommy and Daddy are.[/glow]
I just don't see why they would come to a school system like this.
I am an education major at UT. When people find out I am from Campbell County their first question is, "You aren't going back there to teach are you?"
Of course I answer no. I want to go somewhere that pays well and respects the teachers.
[glow=green,2,300]In another thread I started, I discussed the supplemental pay given to coaches in other places. Campbell County needs to step up. Let the programs themselves pay the supplements. I have been told that the money raised at the gates goes into the general school funds, with NONE of it going back into the sports programs. Of course that leaves administrators like the buffoons, Gary Seal and Jim Pierce to decide where the money is spent. Come on Admins, put some of that money back into the programs. They just do not seem to understand, that if the programs succeed, more folks with money around the county will donate more money to the programs. It is just that simple, winning programs breed more money for those programs.[/glow]
That isn't Campbell County. Our school board and central office staff are jokes. Gary Seale is even worse.
[glow=green,2,300]See above statement to see my total agreement with this statement, but I carried that statement to another level.[/glow]
I would never willing teach or coach, not that I feel I am qualified to coach I am just saying that to make a point, in Campbell County because of the idiots that are in charge.
[glow=green,2,300]You said, I didn't. But I do agree with you 100%.[/glow] |
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Post by bluedev on Oct 10, 2007 18:54:34 GMT -5
Well I for one am anxiously awaiting the day that you go down and poop a bunch of money for us to pay these great coaches. I'm sure that if they read the comments on this board from you all-knowing bastards they'll beat a trail to coach in Campbell County. Thanks for shedding such a great light on us. How long have you lived outside of Michigan?
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Post by blueandwhite on Oct 10, 2007 19:27:54 GMT -5
wow! that was awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by blueandwhite on Oct 10, 2007 19:32:45 GMT -5
shhhhhhh! maybe if we are really quite it will go away.
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Post by hogleg on Oct 10, 2007 20:32:31 GMT -5
HA! I was wonderin' when somebody was going to let the yankee word fly. Whoop! There it is!
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