|
|
Post by volviking on Sept 18, 2007 9:34:33 GMT -5
There appears to be several more players joining the team lately. I will readily admit I am biased with the Cougar program since my son is a Freshman this year. When I saw him kidding around with the newest addition to the Cougs Frosh team, 6'4 250 Luke Farnum(sp?), I quickly advised my son to become very good friends with him for the next 4 yrs.  There is some special chemistry brewing with this Freshmen squad. This time last year they were pounding on each other. Now, they are becoming very close friends and showing great team unity as Cougars. |
|
|
|
Post by cougardad on Sept 18, 2007 9:51:43 GMT -5
I agree Vixen. Some boys got it some don’t.
Some boys have a natural ability like running, dodging, giving and taking a hit. Some can sense where the ball is going and make great plays. Good coaching can make these boys shine like diamonds. With poor coaching they still look good but can’t reach the stars.
Other boys need to be coached into greatness. There are a number of boys out there of all age groups that have potential. It’s just they have never been taught the right way. And that is what the coach needs to do.
Combining these two make a great team.
We fail because of a lack of football mechanics. Proper blocking techniques, pulling, scoop blocking, tackling, taking a hit, giving a hit, the list goes on. These things need to be taught. And the Coach and his staff are the teachers. And it’s not getting done.
Poor play calls and clock management play a role as well.
|
|
|
|
Post by cougardad on Sept 18, 2007 9:54:49 GMT -5
Welcome Voleviking.
Just to let you know, the freshmen team three seasons ago went won 9 and lost 1 under different coaching.
Look what happened.
|
|
|
|
Post by operator on Sept 18, 2007 9:59:58 GMT -5
About nine years ago there was another great freshmen tema that dominated only to see most of it's best athletes leave for whatever reason. A few of them went on to play college football and rugby. At least three are now coaching on the high school level.
It is beyond coaching that is the problem it comes from higher up. We have morons running the show here.
|
|
|
|
Post by Cougs on Sept 18, 2007 10:12:53 GMT -5
I have to disagree about football fundamentals. They do teach the boys the right way. I know first hand. I know even on the middle school level as for LMS players..Steve is doing a fine job also teaching techniques. I have to say that fundamentals are taught very well at CC. Giving the boys some credit they know how to play football. For the players that did start late and missed all summer they might not be up to par with the rest. That is one disadvantage of not committing through the summer. All of these coaches played football at one level or another. Kncwing and teaching fundaments is something different than calling plays. Just newly added full time, Rob...which played for UT and has been in the NFL for the last 3 or 4 yrs.
|
|
|
|
Post by Cougs on Sept 18, 2007 10:23:58 GMT -5
Welcome Voleviking. Just to let you know, the freshmen team three seasons ago went won 9 and lost 1 under different coaching. Look what happened. And the coach that coached that team is at the middle school level feeding the HS program with players...being taught fundamentals. |
|
|
|
Post by Ball Coach on Sept 18, 2007 10:33:56 GMT -5
About nine years ago there was another great freshmen team that dominated only to see most of it's best athletes leave for whatever reason. A few of them went on to play college football and rugby. At least three are now coaching on the high school level. It is beyond coaching that is the problem it comes from higher up. We have morons running the show here. You are 100% right on there...one coach's ego kept that team from being undefeated...he pouted up when the varsity O-coordinator was calling the plays for the Frosh. team and threatened to quit...at that point the team was 4-0,I think with a 30-40 point thumping of Oak Ridge under their belt. When that coach, which will remain nameless for posterity's sake, took over the play calling the team finished 2-3 or 3-3 something like that...with losses to the likes of Clinton, Farragut, and a William Blount team that JMS had beaten the year before 34-8...hmmm. There were around 30 freshmen that year, and probably had 3-5 kids that could have started varsity...they should have been better as upper-classmen. Coach K was a great fundamentals and technique coach, but he seemed to have a hard time managing his staff and schemes...thats all I have to say about that because I still think a lot of that man. The bottom line about those kids that left is this...they saw their coach leave and left...it was a lesson for them to learn how to finish. They had a problem learning to finish, and being dedicated to their team-mates, it was a selfish thing to do, but when you have a career ahead in college one would be foolish not to look out for his own interest...especially with the unknown of a new coach coming in...since CC is notorious for hiring duds...not saying Wells was a "dud" but the history of coach hiring and firing with a few exceptions is terrible. Teenagers have a hard time with big decisions...I see it everyday. A decision like this one, in hindsight, was probably best suited for parents, but those parents chose to let their children grow up and face the consequences of their actions. |
|
|
|
Post by cougardad on Sept 18, 2007 10:45:05 GMT -5
So, You've said what is right vixen what is wrong?
|
|
|
|
Post by Cougs on Sept 18, 2007 10:55:02 GMT -5
I'm not claiming to know all of the answers. But I do know that the numbers are there and fundamentals are being taught. Just because it's the norm to put CC's football team down doesn't mean that everything that anyone says it true. Just stating some facts....not emotion.
|
|
|
|
Post by Ball Coach on Sept 18, 2007 10:57:18 GMT -5
I would not say too much is wrong just yet...maybe CC lost to two teams that were flat out better. I would hold judgement for a couple more weeks.
|
|
|
|
Post by cougardad on Sept 18, 2007 11:32:22 GMT -5
I'm not giving up on the Cougar's, not by any means. I plan on being in the stands after both my boys are long gone from Campbell County High School. Win or lose.
If some changes are made we still have a strong chance to make it big this year. And Rob Smith who I know is working on fundementals will be a big part of bringing our O'line around.
As for fundmentals. I am not a coach and don't claim to be. I did play offense in high school for a few years. I wasn't great but I loved the game.
To see these fundemental flaws first off you have to stop watching your own son. That's hard to do. But look at each position. You will see little things that subtract from speed and agility.
Things like foot position. Toes pointed in or out. Double steps on pulls. Give aways like leaning forward on runs and backwards on passes. Defense using improper brush by methods. I could go on. But you have to look close to see the minor flaws that contribute to the big picture.
As I've seen posted here before. This is a very different level of football from middle school. And fundementals need to be taught and drilled at all levels.
Vixen, we'll have to agree to disagree : ) Fundementals of high school football were not being taught and drilled at CCHS. If they were, we would not have so many missed blocks, poor tackles, and broken plays.
Rob and the boys could bring this thing around.
Most of these boys have the ability to be darn good football players with the right guidance.
|
|
|
|
Post by sharpie on Sept 21, 2007 0:04:36 GMT -5
I have to agree orangewashed. It's time for a change! We have a total of ten fresman listed in 2007 program guide. You can't tell me only 10 players moved up to high school from the two middle schools this year. What happened to the rest of these player. Did they go to other schools? More successful programs? Could be! We only have twelve Sophomores. I know of at least two parents that have boys that will be moving into CCHS in the next few years. They both say that as long as the board continues with this program their boys will be going to another school. In the next two years we will lose thirty players to graduation. Compaired to the sign up rate we're losing ground. Don't get me wrong I'm a Cougar fan, love to watch the games, and feel in my heart these boys have a fighting chance if they were properly coached. But look out there, some of the boys can't even do a good three point stance...that's a lack of fundemental coaching skills. I may even think of other schools if my young son shows intrest and some skill in the game. Can you blame me? If something dosen't change in this football program we won't have to worry about if we are going to win or lose. We'll have to worry about having enough players to even field a team. reid told me today about 12 players quit... i dont' know if that number is exact... but, nevetheless, yeah... not that many freshman are playing compared to the number of middle school players. he is wanting to transfer to another school already and told me lots of people have advised him to do so.... i agree w/ cougardad fundamentals are not being taught at all.... cambell county is expanding and i think ppl want to take pride in our community, with that said we really really need a winning program. but, i support the cougars nevertheless... |
|
|
|
Post by Cougs on Sept 21, 2007 6:47:32 GMT -5
I have to agree orangewashed. It's time for a change! We have a total of ten fresman listed in 2007 program guide. You can't tell me only 10 players moved up to high school from the two middle schools this year. What happened to the rest of these player. Did they go to other schools? More successful programs? Could be! We only have twelve Sophomores. I know of at least two parents that have boys that will be moving into CCHS in the next few years. They both say that as long as the board continues with this program their boys will be going to another school. In the next two years we will lose thirty players to graduation. Compaired to the sign up rate we're losing ground. Don't get me wrong I'm a Cougar fan, love to watch the games, and feel in my heart these boys have a fighting chance if they were properly coached. But look out there, some of the boys can't even do a good three point stance...that's a lack of fundemental coaching skills. I may even think of other schools if my young son shows intrest and some skill in the game. Can you blame me? If something dosen't change in this football program we won't have to worry about if we are going to win or lose. We'll have to worry about having enough players to even field a team. reid told me today about 12 players quit... i dont' know if that number is exact... but, nevetheless, yeah... not that many freshman are playing compared to the number of middle school players. he is wanting to transfer to another school already and told me lots of people have advised him to do so.... i agree w/ cougardad fundamentals are not being taught at all.... cambell county is expanding and i think ppl want to take pride in our community, with that said we really really need a winning program. but, i support the cougars nevertheless... 3 freshmen quit yesterday because big Luke decided he wanted to quit after being on the teem for hmmm about a week. And when he quit there were a couple that went because he did. No other reason. I could tell the reason he started last week in the first place but I won't go there right now. Sharpie I don't know if you ever played or not but...... You have to be at practice all week to play in games. You can't be at one and think your entitled to play because of who you are. And that is exactly the case right now! One Practice? |
|
|
|
Post by thepat24 on Sept 21, 2007 9:43:33 GMT -5
I always think it is a mistake to let anybody (except transfers of course) on the team once the season has started.
I know at least some of these players were taught tackling fundamentals in middle school. Heck it was half of our individual practice time at Jacksboro was shedding the block and making the tackle.
|
|
|
|
Post by Ball Coach on Sept 21, 2007 10:20:32 GMT -5
I was thinking about all the discussion of scheme etc. at CC, and as a coach I need to say this to the kids that read this board.
Many systems work, some better than others, but all in use today, at some time, have/have had success. As long as you are striving for excellence at what you are doing you will be alright. Do not lose faith in your offense/defense just because others have a difference in philosophy...your coaches chose it to best suit your talents as a team...so make it work. When kids lose confidence in their team, coaches, system it can well be over for all intents and purposes. So you are better off giving great effort to have success within the framework of the offense/defense you are assigned, and let all the criticism be just that...the weighing of the merits/demerits of a chosen scheme. One can criticize any system out there from the Navy triple option to the Hawaii spread...all have strengths and weaknesses, and the best one is a matter of personal preference rather than objective study of each.
Thank you and keep pursuing excellence Cougars!
|
|
