Put down the Kool-Aid and come on over

[mightymavsofac]

can't figure out what orange said to be smited so many times since he noticed his karma was at 43, not on any side here, but has anyone thought about going after that jellico staff since they are winning and obviously might know what they are doing, been looking up some past years w/l numbers and have noticed that on the grand scale of things jellico has more playoff and wins versus the cchs staff over the last 20 years. and in the past 15 years has more playoff appearances. so why not go after that whole staff?

[ae2]

To be fair...nothing against Jellico..but many of those years Jellico only won 1 ballgame all year which was a region game, which got them into the playoffs! This year however I really like what JHS staff has done!

[devilcoach]

ae's right (and no offense taken). But to be honest, the coaches haven't really done anything different this year. The kids are working harder than the teams of the past few years. The Seniors are more dedicated and that rolls down to the underclassmen. You have to give our players some credit. They bust their humps and it shows on game night. I love our coaches but it's the players making the difference this year.

and ...

o'washy is not attacking the high school team. he's making fun of our middle school program, which has been down for a couple of years. Right now we have 3 non-faculty coaches with no formal coaching experience and that's his reason for our winless record. I've invited him several times to come and save us, but he'd rather just make fun of us and attack the coaches. I really don't even understand why he would be concerned with Jellico other than he likes to make fun of us. Karma is the least of his worries.

[cougardad]

I was new to the area a few seasons ago. And have sat and watched many practices. And all but maybe two games.

I have sat and watched games with retired High School coaches from Tennessee and other states. And they both said the same thing. Coach Wells is missing the boat and not utilizing the obvious talent he has on the field. He is trying to make his team fit his plays instead of coming up with plays that fit his team.

This is a lack in coaching ability, or maybe just a lack of common sense.

Or maybe nepotism has clouded his judgment. No, to be fair to the twins, they are both talented players. Just not quarterbacks.

[devilcoach]

There are lots of coaching styles and some work better than others. I am from the school of making your plays fit your tallent. Schools like Oneida and Huntsville run what they run and use the guys who can run that. There are arguments for and against both of these styles. Of course, if you loose the argument is against the style you used. I don't know Coach Wells so I can neither attack nor defend him but I am curious as to whether anyone has talked to him about the path the team is taking. I know I get comments and suggestions from time to time. Some are useful, some are not so much. I'm not saying you're wrong cougardad, just wondering if anyone actually knows Coach Wells' plan or if we're just assuming. I know that sometimes the plays I call or the blocking schemes we practice do not even resemble what happens in the game, and it makes us all look dumb. I'd be interested in hearing the Coach's side of the story though. Heck, you may be 100% correct but without hearing all of the evidence, how would we know?

[Cougs]

That is true..just like the kick during the UC game wasn't called by Coach Shouse to be an onside but that's sure what it looked like. It wasn't intended but happened. That very much worked in our favor. But like devilcoach said..many things happen that are not intended and looks very different in practice....than in the game and makes the coaches look dumb. Kids are kids...not Pro's.

[cougardad]

I appreciate what you are saying and can see how either “style” may work. However if one style is not working for the team the man that is leading the team needs to be able to see that and adjust as needed. That maybe the problem, there is an unwillingness, or inability to adjust.

I agree the best thing would be to talk with the Coach.

Now I can’t speak from experience but I talked with other parents about approaching the Coach. More than one basically said that if you want to see your son on the bench the rest of the season, go ahead and ask him.

Personally, off the field Coach Wells seems like a very good person.

I may still try to approach him off the field and away from the game.

[devilcoach]

I see your point about riding the bench. Like I said, I don't know the coach. I don't do that but I know it's done. If I benched kids for their parents' behavior I might not have 11 left. (that's a coach's joke.) Like I said, I see your point, I'm just giving you a little insight from the coach's side of the fence. It's harder than I thought it'd be. I've got kids who I'd love to play more but they either don't want to or can't do anymore than what they're doing now. Some of their parents have talked to me about it and some haven't. The ones who haven't just heckle us from our own stands. Ya gotta love it when that happens, right?

[operator]

Devilcoach I think it is great that you work with the kids at the middle school probably for little or NO compensation other than the rewarding effort of possibly changing a child's life. It is tough to coach on a level where you don't get a paid staff.
Keep on working hard.

[ae2]

I really don't agree with talking to the coach....The coach should be able to do whatever he wants to do...it's his team....That is like Coach Wells coming into your workplace and trying to tell you how you can do your job better. Disagree or not, it is still his team!

[devilcoach]

ae2, I agree that it's his team. I don't think parents should "tell" coaches what to do, but maybe open communication could lead to less discent in the stands. I could be wrong, it's just a thought.

[Ball Coach]

Open communication is key to any successful program...coachesdon't have to take anything said into account...but it sure helps to make a parent feel as though what he/she is saying is important to you as a coach...they afterall THEIR CHILDREN. Parents are a valuable resource when "used" correctly, but when mistreated a coach's life will be miserable...without question.

[devilcoach]

That's what I'm sayin' brother.

[bulldogcoach]

ae2 said:

To be fair...nothing against Jellico..but many of those years Jellico only won 1 ballgame all year which was a region game, which got them into the playoffs! This year however I really like what JHS staff has done!

That only happened once, because they were in that & may still be in that 5 team region...the other play-off teams were legit 5-5 or better teams. They had a string from the late 90's where they went to the pla-off in 2A single A & even 3A...those were some good ball teams, the one win deal only happened once.

[sharpie]

This makes me think of the democrats and republicans debating over the Iraq war. The reason is because the democrats say they always support the troops no matter what. But, the problem is the commander and chief. they want a regime change.

Republicans on the other hand say they support the troops and the commander and chief no matter what. and if you attack the commander and chief it's like you are attacking the troops or being unpatriotic.

so, some are saying i support the team no matter what >>> like a republican. while others are saying we support the team, but we want a regime change (new coaching).

thought it was an interesting observation.