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Post by peeblee on Oct 11, 2006 13:05:00 GMT -5
like it or not it is "apples to oranges"...
yeah teh devils have made it tt the playoffs more thimes than CC...
but didnt Jellico make it at least once with only one win...
big difference between 5A and 1A...
comparing volleybal to football, softball to football, and teh such is so much nonsense...
I agree that the Jellico team would compete hard but they would lose most of the time because of the numbers game...
that is why teh TSSAA divides schools into divisions based on enrollment...
and if you think that is so much bunk, think about Jellico playing clinton (which is really down right now), jeff county (also down), bearden, DB, and any other 5A school...
I dont think they would make the playoffs in that scenario either...
dont get me wrong, jellico plays hard, their coaches work hard (they happen to be friends of mine), but a Jellico win vs CC would be few and far between...
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Post by bigb5 on Oct 11, 2006 20:07:53 GMT -5
it could happened but the whole 1a 5a thing cosby or hampton would kill campbell county and they r 1A
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Post by Ball Coach on Oct 11, 2006 20:20:04 GMT -5
You are missing the point...Campbell County is at the bottom rung in 5A...Jellico is pretty low in 1A at present...as of now it would be lopsided...and as people have said before...Jellico at its best Bowlin era still could not manage to beat the Cougars. Right now Williamsburg would beat CC and they are a middle rung 1A team in KY...not to mention the Danvilles and Beechwoods of Kentucky 1A. The class system matters less than location and athletes in the system. Danville could compete year in year out with the best 5A has to offer, but why should they when they have 300 kids in their school up in KY. Jellico doesn't have the athletes right now hands down...i.e. Williamsburg game...enough said.
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Post by bigb5 on Oct 11, 2006 20:28:08 GMT -5
and campbell county has some Troy Akimans,Michael Irvins,n Emmitt Smiths runnin round over there? they suck jellico sucks lets face it but i think jellico has a better caching staff.
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Post by nickj44 on Oct 11, 2006 20:33:13 GMT -5
wat is all this campbell county aint that good like bigb5 said in a recent post who even thought bout campbell county football until chris johnson came along and yes as u all know jellico is a 1-A school but the fact is we dint drop down to a 1-A school until recently wen timmy bowlin an that crew played we were a 3-A team and yes we did beat alcoa for all of youns tha dont think we did we did and if yea cchs might beat jellico now we have lost a lot in the past but a 1A vs 5A team dont mean nothing all tha classifaction is based on how many students u have in the school not the teams an yes i would like to see cchs play hampton one time just to see wat yall think about a lil 1 a team
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Post by nickj44 on Oct 11, 2006 20:41:00 GMT -5
and for another thing yall wanna talk about how "GREAT" cchs football is ok lemma ask u this how many times have yall made it to the playoffs??? how many times have uns had a winning season??? and then sit there for a min an then think about how many times jellico has been to the playoffs think about how many times we have had a winnin season in both 3A and 1A now wat do u all think bout that?
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Post by Ball Coach on Oct 11, 2006 21:25:17 GMT -5
I never said anything about CC being great or even good...I think the line was, "bottom rung". Yes class matters, the fact is the top of 1A is pretty darned good, but only as good as the middle of the higher classes due to having more talent to choose from. For instance on a good year Jellico, Oneida, etc. will have 40 players or thereabouts...whereas Oak Ridge, Farragut, DB, etc. will average around 100 varsity players...now maybe their first eleven are equal in a matchup, but when Jimmy, or Johnny on the 1A team get tired there is a severe drop from 1's to 2's on the depth chart. On the other hand when Billy or Bobby on 3,4,or 5A in MOST cases get tired their backup is only a shade worse than him hence the difference. I remember the days of Oak Ridge sending out 11 different players for every team specialties included.
What is funny is when people get ruffled at OBJECTIVE criticism of BOTH sides...especially someone that could care less who wins a CC-JHS matchup.
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Post by ae2 on Oct 11, 2006 22:36:24 GMT -5
It is good that Jellico thinks they can beat CC...Shows a little pride...However it would not happen......just that simple!
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Post by Mr.LK. on Oct 12, 2006 9:54:47 GMT -5
There is one good single A team year in year out COALFIELD. Im pretty sure this is only Hamptons 2nd or 3rd winning season if you want to talk about previous years. Bottom line the game would not be close. Maybe JHS varsity against the CC jv, But even on CC's worst team ever, they would still beat JELLICO!!!
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Post by bigb5 on Oct 12, 2006 12:36:45 GMT -5
40-400 it dosent matter cause 300 of the 400 will suck 20 of of the 40 will suck but them 20 could be better than the 400 5a 1a 375890579843a doesnt matter who ever has the best team will win and camobell county could NOT beat half the teams in 1A i gurentee it if they could why dont they play some of em?
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Post by formerjhslineman06 on Oct 12, 2006 13:38:34 GMT -5
i dont know if jellico beat alcoa but i believe your thinking about the 98 season when they beat carter. but i hate campbell county just tellin you up front. i dont care if cc beat them 99-0 id still not like em
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Post by bulldogcoach on Oct 13, 2006 8:42:32 GMT -5
There is a huge difference in 5a & 1a. They have the classification system for a reason. Yeah it is only 11 on 11 when u r on the field, but like redhound said it is the drop off from first to 2nd team that will get you. CC suuffers from that as well, altough a 5a team in classification they have the #s of a 3a school in football. The first team guys can play, but when the 2nd team comes in they are in trouble, most teams that they play have a 2nd team just as good as CCs first team. So depth plays a big role in football. If you dont think it does then travel around a little bit spend some time at a single a school. Then go spend some time at a good 5a school or even a good 3a school like fulton. There is a major difference. By the way Cosby is usually horrible. When I was at Jacksboro Middle we beat Cosby 31-6 so I guess CC could handle them.
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Post by johnny come lately on Oct 13, 2006 8:51:23 GMT -5
Hey Jellico know it alls! Jellico used to be a traditional double a school. They were only in 3a for two years, yeah the first year was pretty good but let us not forget that they went 0-10 the next season. Then they ran back to single a. They could not hang with the big boys. Then they went 0-10 again. They could not hang with the little guys either. Now they have beat CLOUDLAND, Cloudland sucks this year they are 2-5. Jhs could make the play-offs this year with one more win. Who wants to go to the play-off with a 3-7 record, & then get stomped by Coalfield.
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Post by thepat24 on Oct 13, 2006 9:39:22 GMT -5
Don't diss Jellico they have a great football tradition. I ahve had amny friends coach there over the years and I think they have a great staff now. I see them really picking up in the next couple of years
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Post by peeblee on Oct 13, 2006 9:59:48 GMT -5
this argument is kinda ridiculous...
redhound and bearden coach spelled it out quite clearly...
anything else is a moot point...
most 1A schools will not even schedule a 5A school for obvious reasons...
yes some 1A scools could beat a few of the lower rung 5A schools but mostof the time it isnt going to happen...
sound reasoning justifies that point!!!
at least for those who are intelligent enough to look at teh facts...
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