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Post by peeblee on Jan 23, 2007 10:55:04 GMT -5
I agree. bigblue wrote everything in a way that makes it hard to argue. I would venture to say you are a democrat also but that is for another message board. Jr. Pro is in this political correct quagmire! Make rules to keep things close and "easy" so you don't get a parent swinging a pole at your cranium. But because of those rules you get a parent swinging away! All I am saying is your not always going to score (life is not a frat party), your deffinately not always going to win and I don't think we should start instilling these thoughts in kids that are as young as Jr. Pro. I played Jr. Pro all the way to middle school where I finally made the team at Jacksboro and I did have a very hard time adjusting to the 10' rims and, what is this, people guarding me in back court?  I do agree with the 9' goals for the little ones but when you are around 3rd grade you need to be playing like the big boys. But that should be the only difference in the game. Somehow this string got to a debate about rules and is now illustrating the actual problem with Jr. Pro. Lets overlook the parents, the true problem, and start arguing about rules. Parents are the problem regardless what the rules are!!!!!!!!!! They should be banned from the gym and forced to watch on close circuit television in the caffeteria!! Can you tell I called some Jr. Pro over the weekend!! parents !!! parents !!!! parents !!!! most problems at almost any level of youth sports (yes I am including high school sports as a part of youth sports) centers around parents...not all parents...actually most parents are "under control"/civil...a in a lot of cases it is a select few that whine, cry, berate the referees and teh coaches... ask almost any coach at teh school level and they will tell youthat dealing with certain parents is the gardest/most difficult part of coaching... but let me STRESS ONCE AGAIN---not all parents fall into this category...usually when a discussion takes place, people will dwell on teh negative...why cant people just follow the saying---"if you cant say something good (positive) it is best to say nothing at all!!! |
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Post by lothar on Jan 24, 2007 13:56:27 GMT -5
I think by the time a kid has been playing Jr. Pro for two years then they are ready to play by all the rules of basketball.
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Post by cc2 on Jan 27, 2007 16:12:55 GMT -5
Officiating is not worth the pay because of the parents. As a youth, the opportunity was presented to me to umpire little league baseball games. At the time, I was only 14/15 years old but I had played baseball my whole life and continued to throughout high school which would mean I have some knowledge of the game of baseball. And by watching the other previous umpires, there was no question in my mind I was an improvement in being able to make the proper calls/unbiased. So I decided to take the job. The whole summer I was "rode" by every teams fans because of my age and ultimately this reached a breaking point in the last game of the season. Being my lucky day, there was a critical play where a runner was attempting to advance to 3rd base. The throw beat the kid to 3rd by what seemed like a good 2 seconds, but the 3rd baseman held the ball and allowed the runner to slide under the tag safely into 3rd base. I called the kid safe, and as a result all HELL broke loose. The parents immediately began screaming/throwing objects onto the field claiming I was cheating and "didn't know what the hell I was doing" among other obscenities. In addition, the coach ran out onto the field like a wild man and got right in my face and began shouting/cussing at me. I told the coach numerous times to go back to the dugout but he refused to listen. My umpiring partner came to restrain the coach, thinking the coach would respect him because he was an adult. The coach continued to cuss me so my partner said, "Hey it's your call." I didn't hesitate and ejected the coach immediately. He obviously thought it was a joke and wouldn't leave, but the cops had to eventually come and make him leave the premises. Unfortunately, the situation was far from over for me. After the game I had the parents of the losing team waiting for me. I had to put up with their cussing as well. One summer was enough for me. Thanks but no thanks.
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Post by peeblee on Jan 27, 2007 16:58:02 GMT -5
Officiating is not worth the pay because of the parents. As a youth, the opportunity was presented to me to umpire little league baseball games. At the time, I was only 14/15 years old but I had played baseball my whole life and continued to throughout high school which would mean I have some knowledge of the game of baseball. And by watching the other previous umpires, there was no question in my mind I was an improvement in being able to make the proper calls/unbiased. So I decided to take the job. The whole summer I was "rode" by every teams fans because of my age and ultimately this reached a breaking point in the last game of the season. Being my lucky day, there was a critical play where a runner was attempting to advance to 3rd base. The throw beat the kid to 3rd by what seemed like a good 2 seconds, but the 3rd baseman held the ball and allowed the runner to slide under the tag safely into 3rd base. I called the kid safe, and as a result all HELL broke loose. The parents immediately began screaming/throwing objects onto the field claiming I was cheating and "didn't know what the hell I was doing" among other obscenities. In addition, the coach ran out onto the field like a wild man and got right in my face and began shouting/cussing at me. I told the coach numerous times to go back to the dugout but he refused to listen. My umpiring partner came to restrain the coach, thinking the coach would respect him because he was an adult. The coach continued to cuss me so my partner said, "Hey it's your call." I didn't hesitate and ejected the coach immediately. He obviously thought it was a joke and wouldn't leave, but the cops had to eventually come and make him leave the premises. Unfortunately, the situation was far from over for me. After the game I had the parents of the losing team waiting for me. I had to put up with their cussing as well. One summer was enough for me. Thanks but no thanks. been there just like you...glad you threw the bum out !!! sorry you decided to give it up though...if you had hung around I really believe you could have shown some people what you were capable of... |
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Post by Big Blue on Jan 27, 2007 23:19:47 GMT -5
Agreed. If we don't teach our kids how to be good sports, who will?
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