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Post by Big Blue on Dec 31, 2006 1:40:52 GMT -5
Just wondering, what will it take to change things here in the county?
Could we ever have a coach that wouldn't be influenced by money or who their family was or what happened to someone in their family in previous years?
I think that there could be some very good ideas to think about come out of this and maybe a little bit of enthusiastic discussion also!
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Post by thegr81 on Dec 31, 2006 12:59:42 GMT -5
Change will come to this county someday soon i hope, We as a community continue to elect the same type of officials and hope for change, it seems to me that in the circle of control the county doesn't want to move forward, we don't want big business, industry or good paying jobs, They( circle of control) cant control wages, profit and new voters from the outsiders. several years back, No one in the circle wanted Wal-mart to come to town. Now we have a chance at a Lowe's and the good ole boys don't want it here either. We are of community of retired people, government employee's ( aka check drawers) and a few hard working folks trying to forge out a better way of life for our kids. with the interstate access , Norris lake community and a high number of young adults in the community. there is no reason not to have a good growth level in our middle income sector. but our elected few can't let their friends /family small min.wage businesses suffer. i mean really what is better for the community 10 min.wage jobs or 150 jobs at $10+ an hour + benifits..... we all know the answer here, but the good ole boy network lines its own pockets first...
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again. expecting a different result-------- some famous scientist said this---LOL---
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Post by allen on Dec 31, 2006 13:10:40 GMT -5
what it will take then is for someone with goals and aspirations to become rich to change things. That is what it will HAVE to take. for to be in power, you have to be powerful. it's really that simple.
if you want things to change then get rich. that's the quickest way. telling ppl to vote and stuff is a waste of time in my opinion. money will do the talking. just think if a bunch of ppl who are rich wanted change then change will come. we just need a bunch of ppl who want change to also be rich.
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Post by guest on Dec 31, 2006 15:12:09 GMT -5
Change....well that doesnt happen over night and i dont think it is going to happen in mid season basketball! Change will come when we, as a community, want the same thing! It is not about basketball or about any sport. It is about developing our youth to be great leaders. If our youth can become educated on what is going wrong in our community, maybe they can change it. They will be no businesses moving here, not just because of the "good ole boy" system, but because there is nothing that attracts them here. There would be no reason for a man to bring his family here. The education system is not that strong and there is nothing for the children to do. We have a rec center that is never used. There is nothing for th youth in this community to do. So what would attract them to come?? Why dont we have federal funded programs for our community children here? There are billions of dollars given away every year! why dont we get some? Kids who dont play basketball, baseball, or football have no opportunity to anything? Do they not need to be stimulated.
I just think children should have the opportunity to go somewhere for afterschool programs, tutoring, sports, dance, gymnastics, chess, skateboarding, and anything else that interests them!!!
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Post by thepat24 on Dec 31, 2006 16:39:30 GMT -5
We need to get behind the Boys and Girls Club that is trying to come into the area.
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Post by LHS grad on Dec 31, 2006 17:23:17 GMT -5
Change will come to this county someday soon i hope, We as a community continue to elect the same type of officials and hope for change, it seems to me that in the circle of control the county doesn't want to move forward, we don't want big business, industry or good paying jobs, They( circle of control) cant control wages, profit and new voters from the outsiders. several years back, No one in the circle wanted Wal-mart to come to town. Now we have a chance at a Lowe's and the good ole boys don't want it here either. We are of community of retired people, government employee's ( aka check drawers) and a few hard working folks trying to forge out a better way of life for our kids. with the interstate access , Norris lake community and a high number of young adults in the community. there is no reason not to have a good growth level in our middle income sector. but our elected few can't let their friends /family small min.wage businesses suffer. i mean really what is better for the community 10 min.wage jobs or 150 jobs at $10+ an hour + benifits..... we all know the answer here, but the good ole boy network lines its own pockets first... Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again. expecting a different result-------- some famous scientist said this---LOL--- well said. there has been alot of businesses over the years that have wanted to come to this county only to be turn away by the few who don't want the competition. there is alot of attraction here also two railroads , a major interstate and good people. |
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Post by thegr81 on Dec 31, 2006 18:55:36 GMT -5
thanks LHS grad. we do have 3 key components- Highways, recreation and some good folks in the community.. to many dinosaurs in office that don't want to change ----- Pat-- boys and girls club ..... so very true we needed that about 20 years ago. from what i gather its a great tool to build up our youth thru sports and other activities.....
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Post by Big Blue on Dec 31, 2006 20:07:45 GMT -5
I pretty much agree with everyone about the business end of things.
But what about the coaches and the county sports???
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Post by thegr81 on Dec 31, 2006 20:44:52 GMT -5
Coaches did you say Coaches? well i for one think its time for a new bball coach at cchs. i base this on facts and records only, not who is playing now or who was playing, if you coach bball for 9 seasons and lose 160 games , you need to find another sport to coach. every coach has his or her own style. but the best coaches are role models to the youth they are given to oversee. they know the kids personal life, they know their teachers and how they are progressing in class. they know and communicate with parents, build a family atmosphere , which in turn makes kids play with pride and heart.( i didn't say let the parents call plays or chose who starts-LOL) they are in a position to mold these young lives into something great. so when they reach adulthood they to can give back to the school system from which they came...... but thats my opinion.. i am sure someone on here will tell me that coach pierce does all the above ------ not that he is a bad person, but winning starts with the coach, whining starts when you average 18 losses a season and average 9 wins. results, results , results.......
famous quote---- I dont want to hear about the labor pains, i just want to see the baby.
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Post by sportsnut on Dec 31, 2006 23:30:13 GMT -5
I pretty much agree with everyone about the business end of things. But what about the coaches and the county sports???Coaches? It seems that as time continues on that the coaches start being influenced with younger and younger athletes. Beginning in JR. Pro, parents are constantly talking to coaches about playing time. At the elementary level, things start getting a little more sticky as parents with more money begin to try to influence the coach even more. Once they reach the middle school level it is a full blown political game. It matters about who you are and who you know! If you are not in the right click, you are left on the outside looking in. Unfortunately, by the time the athlete reaches the high school level, alot of the talented ones have already given up on sports. They see no need to try to play the silly games that go along with the hard work that they put into it. Coaches are not fair when it comes to making lineups or rosters. That is just the reality of it. When it should come down to the coach putting the best players on the field, court or diamond, the fact is, the coach has to endure pressure from several angles, that like it or not have an effect on those decisions. Sadly, the people who put the pressure on the coaches most of the time are people who, "know someone or are in prominent positions". So, how do we change the way things are done, you ask? WHO KNOWS!! |
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Post by thegr81 on Jan 1, 2007 0:03:55 GMT -5
good point .
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Post by thegr81 on Jan 1, 2007 0:04:31 GMT -5
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Post by Big Blue on Jan 1, 2007 0:22:01 GMT -5
I pretty much agree with everyone about the business end of things. But what about the coaches and the county sports???Coaches? It seems that as time continues on that the coaches start being influenced with younger and younger athletes. Beginning in JR. Pro, parents are constantly talking to coaches about playing time. At the elementary level, things start getting a little more sticky as parents with more money begin to try to influence the coach even more. Once they reach the middle school level it is a full blown political game. It matters about who you are and who you know! If you are not in the right click, you are left on the outside looking in. Unfortunately, by the time the athlete reaches the high school level, alot of the talented ones have already given up on sports. They see no need to try to play the silly games that go along with the hard work that they put into it. Coaches are not fair when it comes to making lineups or rosters. That is just the reality of it. When it should come down to the coach putting the best players on the field, court or diamond, the fact is, the coach has to endure pressure from several angles, that like it or not have an effect on those decisions. Sadly, the people who put the pressure on the coaches most of the time are people who, "know someone or are in prominent positions". So, how do we change the way things are done, you ask? WHO KNOWS!! That pretty much sums it up! How do we change that? |
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Post by Rhino on Jan 1, 2007 2:03:20 GMT -5
Right now there is to much importance placed on winning at the 5-6 year old age group and not enough placed on fundamentals. Teams are trying to load up so they can be called the champions by using one or two extremely good players to beat everybody they play. By the time these same individuals reach the middle school it is discovered they aren't as good as their parents think they are. The level of talent at the middle school has dropped off steadily over the last few years. Parents are more involved in today's society and that is not necessarily a bad thing until a coach cannot do his/her job. Parents coaching in Jr. Pro is one thing but continuing through the middle school level is another. Coaching involves more than just winning and losing ball games, it involves molding young men and women into our future. Although a coach is not always fair in his/her decision making it is still what he/she is paid to do. This has happened to me during my day when another kid got to play because his dad bought the team meals on away games. I know this because the coach told me I was better but that was the circumstances. Was it right? It didn't matter because I could do nothing to change it. There are many things that need changing in CC and time is all that is needed to make these changes. How badly will this thing that has taken place effect CC? Only time will tell the true outcome.
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Post by sportsnut on Jan 1, 2007 9:01:54 GMT -5
Agreed there Rhino! I think that Middle school is one of the key times in an athletes development. Kids begin to develop their own opinions about things and players begin to mature mentally and physically. Coaches can very easily ruin a young athlete mentally at this time. If you damage a players love for the game at this age, you can lose them forever! One of the problems now is that the fundamentals are not being taught! Just go watch some of the games in the county and you can clearly tell. So how can you keep a coach from falling to the pressure to play little Johnny because of his daddy? Unfortunately in todays society, I don't think you can.
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