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Post by Big Blue on Nov 11, 2006 10:13:37 GMT -5
I'm really surprised that there hasn't been much talk about what happened last Sunday morning and the (so called) discipline that followed. I know Phil has taken a beating this week on the radio. Even Rome wasted no time jumping on Phil. Rome suggested that maybe next time just suspend them for the coin toss or the pre-game warm-up!
I heard this week on campus that Phil was going to suspend all three of them and he was stopped from doing that by a couple of certain people. Players are pretty tight lipped about it, more than likely, Phil told them to keep their mouth shut.
Gotta admit though, it makes the program look pretty laughable(discipline wise) to the rest of the nation.
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Post by Ainge 4 Heisman on Nov 11, 2006 11:24:07 GMT -5
Not compared to Miami. Only the three young men know what happened, thats it. Mike Hamilton said he agrees with the disipline handed out. That is good enough for me. If Hamilton had wanted more, so would I.
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Post by Big Blue on Nov 11, 2006 11:51:55 GMT -5
Why does everyone always want to look at another school's trouble when they are the one's facing the fire?
Much more than the 3 players know what happened. There were about 25 other players there and all of them left when the police told them to leave. Only the three that were arrested couldn't comply with the police officer's advise and then started a fight and run their mouth to the police (hence the arrest). The police were trying to avoid any arrest, but I guess that the good ole "Liquid Stupid" took over their better judgment.
Here is the fact, Phil Fulmer has a problem with depth at the tailback position! Foster is a starter and he can't afford to keep him on the bench.
Remember, every game is a must win game at UT.
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Post by Ainge 4 Heisman on Nov 11, 2006 12:07:23 GMT -5
You obviously dont know anything about the Tennessee running back situation. There are four other guys that are just as well suited to play today. Ja'Kouri Williams, David Yancey, today's starter Montario Hardesty, La'Marcus Coker is going to play. Dont pull that crap about Fulmer "needed to have his running back". Do some research before you say something that you obviously dont know anything about. If anything they will miss Wardlow and Holbert the most.
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Post by axle on Nov 11, 2006 14:37:52 GMT -5
Every game is a must win game at Tennessee. This also means that The Vols are always in the spotlight. I think Fulmer made a good decision with the punishment and so did the AD. And as far as needing him for this game, I don't think it really swayed him that much either way. The Vols have kinda switched to a running back by committee style anyway.
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Post by Big Blue on Nov 11, 2006 21:41:09 GMT -5
You obviously dont know anything about the Tennessee running back situation. There are four other guys that are just as well suited to play today. Ja'Kouri Williams, David Yancey, today's starter Montario Hardesty, La'Marcus Coker is going to play. Dont pull that crap about Fulmer "needed to have his running back". Do some research before you say something that you obviously dont know anything about. If anything they will miss Wardlow and Holbert the most. Sounds like a typical response from the people that I am around everyday. For your information, I do know what I'm talking about before I make a statement. First, Yancey has had a whopping 13 carries (almost all in mop-up duty) and Williams has had an astounding 1 carry all season. Maybe, with the score 31 to 7 in the 4th, he will get in and save the day. I work at the university and I am around these people everyday. For you to say that they would miss Wardlow and Holbert the most is perhaps the most ignorant statement I have heard today. Sorry to sound so harsh, but please know what you are talking about before you respond. |
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Post by Ainge 4 Heisman on Nov 11, 2006 21:49:38 GMT -5
Tell me how they would miss Foster then chief. He has only played one series. I didn't say that they wouldn't be able to win without them. They just have less depth at those two positions than at running back. You may work at the University but that don't mean that you know anymore. If i stand in a garage, does that make me a car???
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Post by Big Blue on Nov 11, 2006 21:49:55 GMT -5
Every game is a must win game at Tennessee. This also means that The Vols are always in the spotlight. I think Fulmer made a good decision with the punishment and so did the AD. And as far as needing him for this game, I don't think it really swayed him that much either way. The Vols have kinda switched to a running back by committee style anyway. I think that is the problem, they are in the spotlight and that creates a much greater pressure to win. Like I said in my original post, there are certain people that make the big decisions in the program and they made the decision on this one. Think back, Lee Smith never got to even strap on the uniform and he got canned for the same thing. That was Fulmer's decision. Smith wasn't in the position to hurt them during the season with his absence. This is not a Phil bashing, just want people to not be so naive and defend someone when they are wrong. |
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Post by Ainge 4 Heisman on Nov 11, 2006 21:55:06 GMT -5
Why should the guy that is trying to help break the fight up get the big penalty. Holbert and Wardlow were fighting, Foster was arrested because he didnt comply with police when they told him to leave. He was ignoring police to try to get his teammates to leave with him.
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Post by Big Blue on Nov 11, 2006 22:02:05 GMT -5
Because Foster, Holbert and Wardlow were guilty of underage consumption! There was 25 of their team mates there also and a member of the Vol staff was called and he couldn't do anything with them. They didn't just arrest him for not complying with the officers instructions.
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Post by Ainge 4 Heisman on Nov 11, 2006 22:06:25 GMT -5
Sorry for ever doubting you because its very obvious you were there. Forget the police report that I read, I would always go with an eye witness acount. Im just wondering, did they talk to you to get an account?
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Post by Big Blue on Nov 11, 2006 22:10:08 GMT -5
Whatever, I guess you just can't talk to some people.
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Post by Ainge 4 Heisman on Nov 11, 2006 22:15:14 GMT -5
You act like these three guys are the only guys ever that have been younger than 21 and drank alcohol. This is something that goes on everywhere dude. Some kids just cant handle it and thats when things like this happen. If the police arrested everyone that was drinking underage at the University there would be prolly and enrollment of about 10. And thats just not here, its everywhere. Its College, the atheletes are no different from the regular students.
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Post by Big Blue on Nov 11, 2006 22:25:28 GMT -5
That has been my point the whole time. These athletes are held to a higher standard because they are in the spotlight all the time. There is so much drinking on campus, it is really sad. The police (especially UT police) go out of their way to keep the athletes in line, but alot of time there are just bad seeds. Don't you find it strange, that the day after all of this hit the press, there was Foster on all of the radio and tv stations trying to do damage control. How often do you see that when someone there or at any school get into trouble? Well, the games over now and Vandy is next.
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Post by dwayn25 on Nov 11, 2006 22:53:48 GMT -5
Ok I'm over at the Universtiy everyday too and I talk to people that work at the University and it looks like you are just the saem bigblue. Everyone of them think they know everything and they say the university does everything wrong and how Fulmer should be fired and how the university should do this and that and if it was u then u would do this and that. If you dont like the way things are working at the university and how they do things, then find a job at another university or something. U dont know what went on there no more than ne of us. If Foster said he was just trying to break up the fight, then I believe him. He admitted he shouldve did it different, but it was too late. As far as goin on the radio and everything the day after, he did the right thing. U think he was doing it to cover up stuff? Give me a break. He was probably goin on the air so it wouldnt get blew out of proportion. brucepearl4pres is right, know what is goin on before u start talking it. U want to talk about Lee Smith, he was never goin to see the field ne ways, but Brooks sure was and Phil kicked him off the team too. He was picked to be one of the best in the conference and he got kicked off. Dont sit there and talk about crap u dont know ne thing about. UT police love to get all over the athletes just so they can say they arrested them and stuff. THe police over there are just jerks. Like I said if u dont like the way the university handles things, then find somewhere else to work.
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