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Post by volviking on Oct 19, 2006 15:49:51 GMT -5
Please allow me to preface this with the disclaimer that this is a pissed off and disappointed Dad posting, not your normal sports fan.
Last night, during the Eagles playoff loss to the Robertsville Rams, my son went up for a high pass and landed wrong on his surgically repaired knee near the far sideline. From the pressbox at Blankenship Field it was obvious that he was in a great deal of pain and was limping very badly trying to make it across the field to his sideline. The Jacksboro coaching staff did not make a move to assist him to the sideline, and finally after he made it to midfield, teammate Zach Slagle (Zach, you were great!) ran to his aid and assisted Jason to the sideline.
Once on the sideline, Jason went to the bench in significant pain. NOT A SINGLE ADULT WENT TO CHECK ON HIM! By the time I made it from the pressbox to the far sideline, his mother was already there and several of the Eagles' Dads, but NONE FROM THE COACHING STAFF. Jason's mother went to seek assistance from the Robertsville side and I went for ice. Finally one of the Eagles coaches did comment, asking Jason if he was ready to go back in!?!
Not only was my son ignored, but also another Eagle standout, Tony Begley. Tony was in severe distress and pain, yet NONE came to check on him except for his parents and an Oak Ridge physician that my wife had located with the assistance of the Robertsville staff and fans. Tony had to be assisted from the sideline by his parents and went to the ER. Jason will be evaluated later after the swelling subsides. To his credit, Coach Derick Marlow did check with Jason and stated, from his personal experience, that the new injury was probably scar tissue flaring from the previous surgery.
I have always had the utmost respect, (and still will after my anger subsides) for Coach Mike Miller, Brent Peel, and the rest of the staff, but this oversight made me furious. Not only for my son, but also for Tony and others that were banged up.
I ask again, are these young athletes to be considered only as pieces of meat and once they cannot continue to play, are they to be ignored?
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Post by thepat24 on Oct 19, 2006 16:20:57 GMT -5
This was never a problem when I was there no matter who the head coach was.
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Post by Ball Coach on Oct 19, 2006 17:14:20 GMT -5
It must be noted that some coaches were in the pressbox when this occured...and a coach did help Begley off and tend to his injury as far as it was in his capacity to do.
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Post by thepat24 on Oct 19, 2006 20:29:26 GMT -5
Jacksboro could stand an extra assistant or two. I mean two in the pressbox really limits what can be done on the field.
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Post by Ball Coach on Oct 19, 2006 20:37:01 GMT -5
Especially if they lose some next year.
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Post by Rhino on Oct 19, 2006 20:48:38 GMT -5
If time had to be called for him to come off someone surely should have helped him. If time had not been called once he reached midfield somebody should have went to help. If I see one of our players down or slow getting up I am gone. It's there future not mine that is at stake. Without time being called though a coach is limited to the sideline. Once on the sideline it becomes a different matter.
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Post by Ball Coach on Oct 19, 2006 21:18:06 GMT -5
Time WAS called...and he walked across from the OR sideline to the visiting sideline...very disturbing.
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Post by thepat24 on Oct 19, 2006 21:57:35 GMT -5
I wasn't there so I am going to hold my commentary. All I know is that during my time therethat never happened to my knowledge
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Post by thehandler22 on Oct 22, 2006 1:34:37 GMT -5
Well, I know those of you on this board that coach or have coached can agree with me on this one, that no matter what, players come first. If I had a player hurt, I would definitely be there, no matter if I were in the PB or not. Very disturbing Red I concur.
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Post by thepat24 on Oct 22, 2006 9:38:28 GMT -5
Absolutely players come first.
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Post by panthercoach on Oct 23, 2006 8:36:08 GMT -5
Very unfortunate events. I can't recall that ever happening during my tenure, but it might have. I would hope it didnt. Sometimes, coaches forget that those are young kids out there. When it comes down to a players well being, absolutely, that comes before winning. If a player is hurt pretty bad, the officials should stop play. If they don't then the coach definitely should. The coach should actually make the official call a timeout by coming on the field to check on the player. And for sure check on them when they get to the sideline. We are fortunate to have athletic trainers and a team dr up here so the kids can be attended to by an adult while we continue our job. We will ALWAYS check on them either directly or through the trainers. I hope Jason and Tony are ok. Tell them I said hey!!!
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Post by demottacus on Oct 23, 2006 14:09:26 GMT -5
I would like to speak on my behalf as a JMS coach and a Roane State Nursing Student. When collins went down he was assisted off the field by slagel. Had he went down and forced an injury timeout i would have been the first person out there to ambulate him to the sideline. As for no one checking on him I most certainly did as soon as he made it to the sideline. I made him lift up both knee pads so i could assess the damage. It was slightly discolored red but there was no noticeable swelling yet. I said if you are done we need to get some ice on it but wait and see if the pain is just temporary. I recall asking collins if he was good to go. That is my job. Why would you not want to see if one of the best players could not go in? We also needed to make a substitution if he was not able to play. As for Tony I did not even know he was hurt until after the game when I seen him obviously in pain from the grimacing facial expressions. I agree we need a trainer on hand and more assistive personnel. As for the title question "are football player's pieces of meat?" of course we are to some degree. I have played hurt and i have played injured, there is a difference,I have played when i should have came out. It is an issue of pride. No one wants to be called soft by their team and fans. and when it all boils down we are not just out there beating our bodies to death because we like to do it, but also because we are the entertainment and we enjoy the pride and reputation that comes along with it. Sorry to get so philosophical but I wanted to make that point.
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Post by thepat24 on Oct 23, 2006 15:01:37 GMT -5
I am glad to know he did get some attenion. I just assumed you were in the box with Redhound.
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Post by danebradshaw on Oct 23, 2006 18:12:09 GMT -5
Dane Bradshaw says that's bad.
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Post by Ball Coach on Oct 24, 2006 0:58:10 GMT -5
I would like to speak on my behalf as a JMS coach and a Roane State Nursing Student. When collins went down he was assisted off the field by slagel. Had he went down and forced an injury timeout i would have been the first person out there to ambulate him to the sideline. As for no one checking on him I most certainly did as soon as he made it to the sideline. I made him lift up both knee pads so i could assess the damage. It was slightly discolored red but there was no noticeable swelling yet. I said if you are done we need to get some ice on it but wait and see if the pain is just temporary. I recall asking collins if he was good to go. That is my job. Why would you not want to see if one of the best players could not go in? We also needed to make a substitution if he was not able to play. As for Tony I did not even know he was hurt until after the game when I seen him obviously in pain from the grimacing facial expressions. I agree we need a trainer on hand and more assistive personnel. As for the title question "are football player's pieces of meat?" of course we are to some degree. I have played hurt and i have played injured, there is a difference,I have played when i should have came out. It is an issue of pride. No one wants to be called soft by their team and fans. and when it all boils down we are not just out there beating our bodies to death because we like to do it, but also because we are the entertainment and we enjoy the pride and reputation that comes along with it. Sorry to get so philosophical but I wanted to make that point. I'll have to second and third that...heck I played with more injuries than I care to think about. I am still baffled at why he wasn't attended to on the field. I can't even make a guess at it honestly. Since this is a public board I will refrain from expressing the full measure of my frustration with the situation. Are both of them alright? I haven't been to Jacksboro since the game, nor have I had any contact with them. |
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