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Post by cchsparent on Dec 19, 2006 15:01:28 GMT -5
Hello,
This is my first posting, just discovered this site the other day. It has been extremely interesting reading all the comments.
My message is the concern I have with the importance placed on sports in this county and the lack thereof with academics. How many of you would be this involved if this basketball mess were an academic issue? How many of you students have a 3.0 GPA or higher, how many parents are spending as much time working with their students on academics as they are with their sports? Academics is a much larger issue for this county. Rememer, sports should be EXTRA Curricular not a primary curriculum priority. I love sports as much as anyone, however how far will local sports take any of these students. How many are getting their college education paid for by playing sports (very few). Let's focus on education and improving the quality of life for our children. Playing a sport is an excellent tool for teaching self discipline, respect, ambition, and many other life lessons, but you need an education to carry all of those attributes forward.
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Post by thepat24 on Dec 19, 2006 15:22:21 GMT -5
Well this is a sports discussion page so it is safe to say that sports issues are a big concern here.
That being said I don't disagree with some of your points.
Athletics is a very useful tool to teach many life lessons and I perosnally went to school on both the high school and college level with people who wouldn't have bothered with school if not for athletics.
Stay tuned I should have a page that is more suited for political and educational issues discussions some time int he first quarter of 2007.
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Post by Big Blue on Dec 19, 2006 15:24:06 GMT -5
First, welcome cchsparent. I also am a parent of an athlete at cchs.
Second, great first post!! Several people would drop off if it was just about academics, that's for sure. But you are dead to right, that is what the biggest percentage of these kids will have to rely on in the future. No doubt, team sports teaches some valuable lessons that can be used later in life, that's why I have encouraged my children to participate if they wanted to.
Once again, welcome!
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Post by devilcoach on Dec 19, 2006 15:37:48 GMT -5
I think the reason that most of our comments here are about sports is because this is the Campbell County sports forum. We've all come here pretty much to talk about sports. Sure, there's a little politics thrown in, but the just of the matter is sports. I coach middle school football at Jellico. I can't speak for the rest of the coaches in this county, or even at JES, but on my team grades are first. I am not a teacher but I check in with the teachers regularly to see if I have a kid who may need some help. ALL of my kids can tell you that if I catch a zero in the grade book, they have some bench time to serve. We're a school team so school comes first. If they do well enough in school, then they earn the right to go out for football. This past season was my second. We had 3 kids leave the team for grades my first year and NONE this past season. (for grades anyway) As coaches, all we can do is encourage the kids to keep up with their studies. I think all of the coaches on this forum will agree that academics are important. Just because sports is all we talk about on the sports forum doesn't mean that sports is all we care about.
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Post by guest on Dec 19, 2006 15:47:33 GMT -5
Just curious, what are the academic requirements to be eligible to play sports? Is is a set standard across the county or is it based on individual schools or coaches requirements?
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Post by stinersmom10 on Dec 19, 2006 16:08:29 GMT -5
actually, my son plays sports, always has, and also always has maintained a 3.50 and better, currently 3.72. he plans on playing college ball and one of the main scholarship requirements is a high gpa. i believe the requirements are at least a c average, if you drop down you have until the next semester to improve or maybe you are tested weekly until it is improved. It seems like that is what one kid did in middle school. If you have looked at the students that play ball, most are very intelligent and the others if it weren't for sports would most likely be working some minimum wage job for a lifetime career. it does provide incentive for all the kids and can be a useful tool for the teachers and principals if the child loves the sport enough to study and get a useful education as a benefit.
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Post by guest on Dec 19, 2006 16:38:27 GMT -5
what level of classes are these students athletes taking, gen ed or upper level?
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Post by Guest on Dec 19, 2006 16:45:14 GMT -5
OK, we have one athlete who hopes to go to college next year, curious about the scholarship offers for him, academic, athletic, or both. Please don't include lottery, anyone can qualify for that.
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Post by stinersmom10 on Dec 19, 2006 17:21:08 GMT -5
you have college bound classes which are generally your english that may entail the essay type courses, math would be your geo, pre-calc and calc, probably 2 or more of the sciences, which would be chem and bio. the foreign languages, that type of curriculum. a lot of your out of state schools the scholarships with out of state may only provide about 50% of your cost as well as losing the lottery in state money. Maryville for example doesn't offer athletic scholarships but all academic which can offset the cost up to a 100% incl your pell and hope schol. so if you have kids encourage them to do well on their act as this has a direct, i mean direct impact on the amount of $. Tusculum with 19 act can offer 6000 on one schol., 24 jumps it to 9000 and 26 $12000. i believe that is pretty close. as far as brance himself is concerned with football being his main direction as to where he goes we are just getting in the mix.
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Post by stinersmom10 on Dec 19, 2006 17:22:50 GMT -5
in my prev msg. the requirements about the c average is to be able to play ball in the middle and high school level, i may have misled you there. i jumped from one to the other there, sorry
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Post by Guest on Dec 19, 2006 17:33:04 GMT -5
Does anyone know how many of our senoir student athletes have actually taken the act or sat and have applied for college acceptance?
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Post by Cougs on Dec 19, 2006 18:55:25 GMT -5
My son played football at CC and he received the Tennessee Titans scholarship. It was a one time $1,200 but every little bit helps. You had to of played football, have at least 50 hrs of community service and at least a 3.0 GPA. Every high school in Tennessee has one scholarship from the Titans to give out....The guy from the Titans organization said to make sure and tell others about it because out of 90 some counties in TN. They had a lot of schools that didn't even apply for the scholarship. One big thing that kids need to know most scholarships that you apply for requires community service. Most colleges require community service as a prerequisite for attending also. That is something they can start accumulating as a freshmen.
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Post by Rhino on Dec 19, 2006 22:18:06 GMT -5
Good post cchsparent.
My daughter who is a sophomore at CCHS had played basketball since she was five. This is the conversation she had with my wife and me. We sat her down before tryouts her freshman year and pretty much demanded that she tryout. Her response was this, "Do you see me paying ball in college?" I told her, "sure at a small school". She said, "Will I be attending a small school to get my college education?" My reply was no. She went on to say that she shouldn't spend that much time doing something that will not help her down the road. She is well thought of by her former teammates and opponents that she knows. Most of the girls from AC and Oak Ridge know her well. She gave as much to basketball as she got from it. By the way, she has received letters from Miami U, Tulane, St. Louis, VMI, and Georgia Tech because of her academic prowess. She takes all the accelerated classes that she is allowed to take and because of the weighting of certain classes had a 4.12 gpa at the end of her freshman year. Her goal is to receive a scholarship to Vanderbilt University.
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Post by Big Blue on Dec 19, 2006 22:22:04 GMT -5
An academic scholarship to Vandy would be an awsome accomplishment!!
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Post by thepat24 on Dec 19, 2006 22:24:43 GMT -5
Good post cchsparent. My daughter who is a sophomore at CCHS had played basketball since she was five. This is the conversation she had with my wife and me. We sat her down before tryouts her freshman year and pretty much demanded that she tryout. Her response was this, "Do you see me paying ball in college?" I told her, "sure at a small school". She said, "Will I be attending a small school to get my college education?" My reply was no. She went on to say that she shouldn't spend that much time doing something that will not help her down the road. She is well thought of by her former teammates and opponents that she knows. Most of the girls from AC and Oak Ridge know her well. She gave as much to basketball as she got from it. By the way, she has received letters from Miami U, Tulane, St. Louis, VMI, and Georgia Tech because of her academic prowess. She takes all the accelerated classes that she is allowed to take and because of the weighting of certain classes had a 4.12 gpa at the end of her freshman year. Her goal is to receive a scholarship to Vanderbilt University. She was a great ball player. Very intense and very tough in the paint. |
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